Long after slavery ended in the British colonies, British people continued to lobby the American government to free their slaves. BLM is after political or financial advantages because of slavery. Pretty much everybody in the West is against slavery. Thats fine, BraveFart. Giles Terera, the Olivier award-winning British performer who starred in the popular theatre production Hamilton, has recently staged a play called the Meaning of Zong about the massacre of 132 enslaved Africans aboard the slave ship Zong in 1781 and the impact it had on Equiano. Theres no point pretending Europeans who profited from either the transatlantic slave trade or the use of slave labour in the Americas were somehow doing a favour to the slaves involved, even if, as it happens but their owners could not have predicted, their surviving descendants ended up financially better off on average than the counterfactual of remaining in Africa. "Incorporating the stories of people like Equiano is merely part of a process of looking at all of British history; not just being selective, not only going to the chapters that make us feel good about ourselves or proud.". Should almost go without saying except of course that it doesnt, since clearly not every culture has the same moral gut reaction to it that I do. The New Statesmans weekly environment email on the politics, business and culture of the climate and nature crises - in your inbox every Thursday. Good point, I wonder how he squares the obviously comfortable living he has writing, opining and broadcasting about slavery with his principles. While I dont think they persuaded anyone, they did shift perspectives a bit. They did not care much for adult males. Although the bottom line is that no Black person remembers slavery. It isnt happening now. There is no reason to think one system was more or less brutal than the other. After all, adult males were all but worthless and demand for women might have been enough to drive the trade anyway. Would also apply even if down a different family line there had been beneficiaries of the slave trade. How does importing new labour from West Africa solve the food shortage in the West Indies? Slavery is bad or it isnt. The stars are out as Dr Pete Olusoga explores the psychology of stage and screen with the wonderful British actor (and Coronation Street veteran), Shobna Gulati. David Olusoga Historian, broadcaster and film-maker. The masses who once supported black freedom now campaigned for the Deep South. Do I feel like I had anything to do it? Its a replay of the ecology nutters & the trannies. David Olusoga's Family David Olusoga, age 49 was born to a Nigerian father and a British mother. It's against this backdrop that Black British History Month was created. If you want to pay more tax, just write a cheque to HMRC and send it off. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . But you need a different approach if you dont think great-grandkids of the Confederacy are still fair game.) In the 15th and 16th centuries, thousands of pounds of gold were shipped to Europe. In the system that made Sloane wealthy, black women sought out herbs, plant species that he carefully identified and categorised, and used them to induce abortions, determined as many were not to bring into the world children who would be born items of property and destined to live short, brutalised lives. That involved killing the adult men. The evidence of this is that seasoned slaves, those exposed to the environment, sold for up to 50% more than new ones. I agree BIS. Anti-black riots broke out in Liverpool that year. But its still awful, even on a historical scale.. You can pay all the reparation for historical slavery related wrongs, real or imaginary, you want. And tolerance is not a given. At the moment it seems to regarded as a good thing. The book accompanying. "Equiano is the most important voice that we have from the British experience of slavery and the slave trade," he said. The Celtic version of slavery (which ran to quite a different model) was still going on in the places the Romans didnt reach. So he calls himself a Geordie. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). It was an apt university to experiment with such developments, since Lord Scarman, who reported on the Brixton riots of 1981, was its chancellor. Welsh slave-raids into England continued until early Norman times. Not sure theyd do that with modern sensibilities mind you. She had no interest in esoteric discussions of the war. Well one economist has worked out the amount to be paid (although not on a damages basis, when one imagines blacks might end up paying whites, but on a close the wealth gap basis): A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap. Tim says there might be some truth to them for the Caribbean. Fryers book was monumental, inspiring conferences, publications, the setting up of local history groups, the establishment of Black History Month, and radio and television programmes. Re putting the argument for paedophilia they actually gave Gide the Nobel prize for literature didnt they? Deliberately shipping that many people that far in order to participate in a newly-created society whose economic system was designed, pretty much from the ground up, around slave labour? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thats before you get on to the Khoisan and the Zulus, the Carthaginians and Romans, the Vikings versus pretty much anyone else who lived within raiding distance, Theres a fundamental weakness with all theories of universal law or justice, which is that across time and space, the human conception of what is right and just seems to be extremely varied and rarely (to modern Western eyes) pleasant. Rather the constitution banned the slave trade and so it become economically worth it to make sure slaves lived longer. Reasonable estimates have some 50% of the inhabitants of the Sokoto Caliphate as late as the late 19th cent being slaves. He presented the recent series of A House Through Time on BBC 2, and Black and British: A Forgotten History. How does it benefit anyone to make an issue about particular events? In 1986 I came across the book Staying Power by the British journalist Peter Fryer. The government has said the "flexibility within the history curriculum means that there is the opportunity for teachers to teach about BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic) history across a spectrum of themes and eras" so it did "not believe it was necessary to change the curriculum". Yet American slave-produced raw cotton continued to feed the 4,500 mills of Lancashire. David will . "They were barely known even to historians. Flyover Americans arent going to take it. If one disproves his assertions would slavery then be okay? TV historian David Olusoga claims it is "palpable nonsense" to say that removing controversial statues "somehow impoverishes history". at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. They may not be happy about Dresden or Hiroshima but their lives are much better. It may have made sense for the SS to starve labourers to death. How would Nigeria treat a foreigner like him? Used to be on a long-dead and much missed forum where the topics of debate ranged far wider than they do here (as did the viewpoints I think it would be useful if us right-wing brexity mob didnt chase off the sensible non-right-wing non-brexity types so much). My great grandfather fought to end slavery in a war. Reckon they found commenters guessing which parts of a hypothetical argument were meant all part of the fun, In many respects youre one of the posters here whose views on morality Im closest to our personal moralities probably being quite far apart, but I recognise mine as very much the product of my upbringing and surrounding society and know enough about other places and times to realise just how contingent that makes them. If slavery really mattered theyd be campaigning for reparations from the blacks and arabs/moslems who were doing it long before the white man arrived in Africa and was far more devastating. In the USA? And this of course neatly addresses MBEs arguments. Olusoga has benefited from and added significantly to the work of Fryer and other historians such as James Walvin. I generally reckon cant blame me, my distant relative was on your side arguments are pretty weak since relying on a doctrine of virtues of the fathers risks implicitly accepting sins of the fathers. 1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat. There is plenty of slavery about we just do not call it that. Roman writers such as Pliny who chronicled or rather fabricated African life shaped perceptions of a continent populated by anthropophagi and other fantastic creatures, half-human, half-animal. Back in the heyday of blogging, perhaps ten years ago or so, there was a blogger calling him/herself The Heresiarch who enjoyed running against received opinions. We do not know enough to be sure. A fifty quid note in the hand of the first black bloke you encounter. More than a million copies were sold in Britain cheap pirated versions reached a mass readership. Even Bill Clinton had affinity for the USA. Get back to me in seven years, when youre ready to order. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history.. 2023 BBC. They did not pay for them and were going to kill a lot of them anyway. And yes, grand scheme of things, forced choice between living in a central Asian city about to be captured by ticked-off Mongols and an African tribal group about to be captured by profit-hungry slavers then fine, I take the latter hands down. Different people can argue the toss from different viewpoints and perspectives but in many ways their arguments pass each other like ships in the night, because they havent all got nobodys got an absolute frame of reference to judge things with respect to. One of the reasons why the American and Caribbean experiences were very different. Oh man. The system he witnessed and wrote about was one in which human beings were worked to death. Whitey bad, give me cash? Would the good professor really be so different if genealogical records could prove he had African ancestors who owned African slaves? His current research focuses on stress, burnout, and wellbeing in sports, with a particular interest in high-performance environments and elite coaching. Their demands should simply be refused. Thats what I dont like about the angle of Tims header. Mans a loon. That someone did something 200 years ago means double ought nothing.. "We are on a journey in this country and other countries are on similar journeys to try and reconnect to parts of our history that had traditionally been edited out," adds Prof Olusoga. I learned the hard way. The German survivors of Stalingrad were sent to camps and most of them worked to death. Wrong ?!?! Id say the same to the Black Lives Matter people. As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. It has been reissued by publishing house Hodder and Prof Olusoga has written the foreword. That star stuff wont last. Not many remember anything about segregation either. When the American Civil War interrupted the supply of cotton, hundreds of thousands of British workers were made destitute, dependent on soup kitchens, and the British economy was dealt a thunderous blow, all because an ocean away the forced labour of four million enslaved black Americans had been disrupted. Joining them is Psychologist and Lecturer at Lancaster University, Dr David Tod, for a fascinating conversation about the psychology of acting. Just as how in the 16th century the anti-slavery voices in Europe were overwhelmed, and in the 19th century the abolitionists won out. Black and British: A Forgotten History addresses one of the greatest silences in British historiography. You lost those two. (I suppose it makes a point about blame not being distributed homogeneously, or that a certain group of people shouldnt be guilted just because they share the same colour of skin with another bunch of people you do think are guilty. One issue about Westerners buying slaves via a chain of commerce that often ultimately involved Africans selling other Africans at traditional slave-trading locations (there was some slave-raiding by Europeans directly, but rarer) is that the extra demand distorted the market, led directly to more armed slave-raiding expeditions against rival tribes and so on. Not good. Long after he had published Corydon, his defence of pederasty. And so many hundreds of thousands of British workers were directly dependent on slavery (from sailors to those who built, rigged and repaired ships) that it was easy to turn a blind eye to the inhumanity. "This generation has the greatest knowledge-giving tool ever created and they have access to knowledge that I just did not have when I was younger. In the case of slavery the answer is clear. But it is Olusoga who keeps insisting that its the Brits who are uniquely responsible.. Olusoga was born in Lagos to a White mother and a Nigerian father who, I hate to say nautrally, did a runner. (At least in our society) Get over it. And he might not find the society withdraws it nearly as comfortable for him to live in. Separated from home and family and landed in the West Indies (countless numbers dying of suffocation during the journey, given that the people traffickers were packing the holds to maximise profits), the Africans had no recourse to the law, much less the conscience of their captors. A House Through Time returned to BBC Two in May for its third season, and once again is fronted by historian extraordinaire David Olusoga. One sporting event that has captured your imagination I was fortunate enough to get tickets to see some of the basketball at the London 2012 Olympics, so my brother and I went to watch the GB vs. Spain game. He is the author of the 2016 book Black and British: A Forgotten History, which was awarded both the Longman-History Today Trustees Award 2017 and the PEN Hessell-Tiltman Prize 2017. A covering letter would be a courtesy but probably not a necessity. But there have been other societies with slavery where slaves had more autonomy and a greater chance of buying their freedom. Full text must be online somewhere but theres an extract at https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings. They are now CM scum and couldnt care less about America. The Royal African Company, established by Charles II in 1672, eventually enslaved and transported more Africans than any other company in British history. They included Josiah Wedgwood (the pottery entrepreneur), Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson. Olusoga poses as an objective historian and says he is not there to bring comfort to people. His choice of subject and his choice of material make that very clear. Now Im trying to imagine just what the strongest case for reparations might be, but even in this thought experiment its hard to see what the eligibility criteria for receiving payment should be, what sum should be due, how much proof is required of eligibility not everyone will have a good set of family records etc. I can then give him the details of other descendants, he can apologise to and compensate. No doubt life expectancy of a slave was shorter than that for a free man. Jamaicans and Nigerians used to hate each other. "I don't know why this generation has a different relationship with the past, goes to the past, expecting and looking for different things to earlier generations, but that's really is my observation about them," he says adding the internet has played a huge part. I do not see what is different between a plantation in Africa and a plantation in Virginia. One in which enslaved people suffered and even died from malnutrition, as the economics of the slave trade meant that it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them than it was to provide them with food. Tim may be wrong about stuff, but ..that, ultimately, makes up for his beating squirrels to death for a hobby, Tim Worstall a horrid man who is anti-minimum wage among other repugnant things Socialist News. ", TV historian rejects 'nonsense' over keeping statues, What Black History Month is - and why it matters. Britain's role in the transatlantic slave trade is part of the national curriculum, although it is not statutory. And yet anti-black race riots broke out in 1948 in Liverpool and in 1958 in Nottingham and Londons Notting Hill. And Britain worked for the whole of the 19th century to put down slavery in Africa. Those aged 11-14 have to be taught about the British Empire between 1745-1901, however the slave trade is one of nine examples given by the Department of Education on what can be taught. I know there are posters on here who see stepping into their opponents perspective as a dangerous and pointless endeavour that gives undue worth to a viewpoint they despise, but purely as a mental exercise theres usually something to be said for examining your opponents strongest argument instead of their weakest. Whoever has the upper-hand in power political, cultural, economic, military or whatever other form is decisive at that moment. Slaves were crowded in a new environment with new diseases. From Roots. It died out with the Romans leaving, and its non-legality repeatedly reaffirmed from the reign of the early Normans onwards.. That was a bad experience but he should know that you cannot judge a whole country by what happened when he was young. A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap.. The answer is money. A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. What difference has it made? They all get it from White people inciting violence. It wasnt always so & it may not be in the future. Eventually, 11,000 separate British slave-trading expeditions resulted in the trafficking of three-and-a-half-million Africans to the New World plantations, the greatest forced migration in modern history until the 20th century. Kyle Rittenhouse, unlike the rest of their sorry asses, did something. One in which enslaved people suffered and even died from malnutrition, as the economics of the slave trade meant that it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them than it was to provide them with food. David Olusoga, introduces his book Black and British, an exploration of the relationship between the British Isles and the people of Africa. If black lives really mattered these people would be protesting the 500 shot dead so far by predominantly black men in Chicago this year. What has he got to say about that? It may not. Its an interesting exercise to consider, given we live within such a system, how or whether that contradiction can be settled. Olusoga brilliantly reveals such contradictions in British society. As for the future, the University of Manchester professor says younger generations give him hope. But maybe they did not. Nevertheless, we live in a society that generally regards slavery as an absolute and eternal wrong, and a grave one at that, yet which has historically (at least certain people and places, and including the state itself) benefited from imposing slavery on others.. Guess wed have to print it. In fact he is a biased political campaigner working to attack and do as much damage to Britain as he can. Thousands of petitions were presented to parliament. The historian tells Michael Segalov about getting up early, reading George Orwell, taking his dog George for a walk, playing his guitar The people in Portland, Seattle and Kenosha are too decadent to fight back. I think a case could be made. They have a game plan & youre falling for it. Prof David Olusoga has presented numerous documentaries including A House Through Time and Black and Black and British: A Forgotten History, Olaudah Equiano played a role in Britain's abolishment of slavery, Performer Giles Terera has written a play featuring Equiano, Prof Olusoga said when it was published, people did not believe the book was by an African as it was deemed so well written, Bernardine Evaristo (second left) has launched a series called Black Britain: Writing Back which features novels by black British authors that have been overlooked, Should black history be taught all year round? Because it isnt about who you are, its about who your ancestors were. Between that night at the opera and 1807, nearly 800,000 Africans were enslaved. How could Britain, a civilised and Christian nation, indulge in rape, torture, killing and the forced labour of Africans over two centuries? many African tribes kept slaves. The publication in 1852 of Uncle Toms Cabin, by the American abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe, swelled national sympathy for the plight of black slaves. Young people - such as Lavinya Stennett who founded the Black Curriculum campaign group - have been calling for change. Various among the societies that were agglomerated into Nigeria were more or less involved in that slave trade from the supply end. The reason why Equiano is not a national name is because slavery is not a part of the history that we teach when it should be because I don't think you can understand the 18th century in particular but also the 19th century without reference to slavery.". Cheap ass presentism. Note, hes a renowned economist. and while the responsible state still exists, Theres a fundamental weakness with all theories of universal law or justice, which is that across time and space, the human conception of what is right and just seems to be extremely varied and rarely (to modern Western eyes) pleasant.. But as someone who is damaged by slavery I have lived in racially mixed communities and I am happy to see Obama and Kamala pay up. "I first read it as a student and it struck me as something that was very different to other things I was reading about the Atlantic slave trade. We pretend we do not like slavery but actually we do not like slave traders. You might have heard of a Romano-British chap called Patrick, got enslaved and nabbed to Ireland? And yet Africans and West Indians were banned from the victory parade in 1919. I am of Ulster Scot heritage, who were originally John Knoxs Cumberland Presbyterians, VERY MUCH against slavery. But that is not the argument I am making. Though I dont know where wed get $12 trillion in Confederate currency. His rhetoric is to inflame the reader. That hes able to write this article is because hes living in what is, by historical standards, a remarkably tolerant society. Then the second. You know, entirely ignoring lifetime effects? 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In the late 1800's and early 1900's, 30,000 Jewish migrants from Russia and Eastern Europe settled in Manchester. He updates Fryer, citing radioisotope analysis of skeletons and craniometrics, which support written documentation of Aurelian Moors guarding Hadrians Wall and settling in places such as Yorkshire. Sloane witnessed and later became part of a system ruled by terror. It is a form of self-loathing. @ Boganboy I have that estimate saved and ready to be critiqued as part of a larger project. Giles Terera, the Olivier award-winning British performer who starred in the popular theatre production Hamilton, has . Sure. The exception is Tim Worstall, who is truly the Ron Jeremy of blogging. What would happen to that money, who knows, but as its (or was) your money, thats between you and your grifter of choice. Some were sold to other African tribes and the rest kept as slaves. He was immersed in it. Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me).. Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? And so, equipped with the fruits of Islamic learning (new navigational instruments, books on astronomy and trigonometry), European explorers set sail for Africa to relieve the natives of their gold. So wherever the wealth came from, it wasnt just slavery (or even mainly), Olusogas an alright presenter but a class A race hustler, Edward Lud August 30, 2020 at 9:12 am We could just cut to the chase, and impose a reparations tax on anyone who is descended from from anyone who did something, er, wrong.. The novel became the bestselling book of 19th-century Britain; it was adapted for the theatre and generated mass-produced merchandise playing cards, jigsaws, tableware. They arent going to concede anything. This is indeed tu quoque. No member of my family ever owned slaves. And I dont think this is what reparations campaigners are calling for either, as I understand it their argument includes systematic legacy issues not just the period of slavery itself, so the harm relates more directly to them not just their ancestors. The many African-American abolitionists, such as Frederick Douglass, who visited Britain from the 1840s onwards, were well received and, again, thousands of people greeted them and raised money to support their cause. But its still awful, even on a historical scale. I dont think the traders can be given a pass on this front either., Just means they werent alone in being in the wrong.. If you are wracked with guilt, ashamed of your forebears, do it! You may concede a point here, a point there. The following decades were taken up with popular and political rhetoric about immigration and parliamentary acts to limit blacks coming to Britain. . West Indians fought with the Allies more than a hundred were decorated. Like I said, as a mental exercise, if I do my best good faith effort to imagine an argument for reparations, I reckon it would concern harms committed by the state (which unlike the slave traders and owners, is still about today) and an argument that it breached some alleged fundamental/universal doctrine of law so that even the states efforts to put the slave industry on a legal footing were null and void. Which of those societies does Olusogas ancestry come from? I cant see the point of denying it was all pretty awful. Video, 00:02:30. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . Again, not that these market forces absolve the sellers of a moral responsibility, but there is an argument occasionally deployed that slaves would have been slaves anyway. 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